Best cell phone?

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Submitted by moneymaker on August 18, 2012 - 8:11pm

Ok I hear iphone5 is coming out this fall. Still have not gone to the smart phone platform yet. My wife's contract is up in November and son is going to college, so I'm thinking family plan. I would like 4G, GPS, voice recognition. Anything else I should be looking for? Does anybody know if iphone5 will have 4G capability (i.e.LTE) Am tempted to go Galaxy S 3 from Costco, but before locking into a contract just wanted to know if maybe I should wait for the iphone5.

Submitted by mike92104 on August 18, 2012 - 8:18pm.

Do you use other Apple products?

Submitted by moneymaker on August 18, 2012 - 8:34pm.

I've got an iPOD, wife has an apple laptop.

Submitted by all on August 18, 2012 - 10:03pm.

The rumor is iPhone 5 (and iPad mini, 13'' macbook pro with retina display, Apple TV with live streaming and second coming of Steve J.) will be announced on 09/12 with support for LTE.

Submitted by Hatfield on August 18, 2012 - 10:31pm.

If your home computer is a Mac, getting an iPhone is a no-brainer. There's just no beating the seamless integration with MacOS and iOS. But If you use a PC, the story gets a lot less compelling. You could make pretty a pretty good argument for it being a tossup between the iPhone and the new Galaxy.

All sources seem to indicate that the iPhone 5 will have an LTE chipset. it's inconceivable that it wouldn't.

Submitted by CDMA ENG on August 19, 2012 - 10:03am.

There is no real evidence that it will be the iPhone 5 yet. As far as I know there has not been anything released to the patent office. This is usually the first evidence of a phone release. Remember this could be the announcement of the mini ipad as well.

The real change to the iPhone 5 is the addition of an LTE radio. The networks have been bracing for this release but it is unclear to anyone, except maybe the top brass, when this will happen.

Not crazy about the phone... definetly won't catch me in a queue waiting 36 hours for its Release. Have fun piggs.

CE

Submitted by spdrun on August 19, 2012 - 10:27am.

Android. Unlike iOS, it doesn't come crippled out of the box, and you don't have some prudish f*cks in Palo Alto telling you what apps you're allowed to install on your own damn device.

Steve Jobs = inventor of computing as a prison, glad he's gone. (to quote Stallman)

Submitted by flu on August 19, 2012 - 1:04pm.

In your situation, I'd wait for an iphone5

Submitted by evolusd on August 19, 2012 - 1:55pm.

spdrun wrote:
Android. Unlike iOS, it doesn't come crippled out of the box, and you don't have some prudish f*cks in Palo Alto telling you what apps you're allowed to install on your own damn device.

Steve Jobs = inventor of computing as a prison, glad he's gone. (to quote Stallman)

'Glad he's gone' - What an a-hole you are. You reiterate a hateful message about Jobs and how you're glad he's dead, a guy who designed something that appeals to the masses due to its efficiency and stability, yet you hate it because you're some techie nerd that spends hours by yourself hacking and 'customizing'.

In my opinion, the iPhone is the perfect choice for someone that has never had a smartphone before. Simple, intuitive, does what you want it to do every time.

I'm fairly technically savvy, and regret the day I switched from iPhone to Android. Will be going back when iPhone 5 comes out.

Submitted by mike92104 on August 19, 2012 - 2:19pm.

Hatfield wrote:
If your home computer is a Mac, getting an iPhone is a no-brainer. There's just no beating the seamless integration with MacOS and iOS. But If you use a PC, the story gets a lot less compelling. You could make pretty a pretty good argument for it being a tossup between the iPhone and the new Galaxy.

All sources seem to indicate that the iPhone 5 will have an LTE chipset. it's inconceivable that it wouldn't.

This is what I was getting at when I asked about other apple products. With your setup, I would just go android, and save some money.

Submitted by newcomer on August 19, 2012 - 10:33pm.

IPhone is excellent in all other functions, but not as cell phone. Basically Steve attached a cell phone function to an iPad touch, as a secondary function not an integrated solution. It does not have some essential cell phone functions, as obviously as lacking of low battery alert, and even worse when you run out your battery, it'd take you several min before you could turn on your phone to resume your voice conversion, not to mention other cell phone functions/performance...

If you don't spend too much time in cell phone conversation, iPhone is the great option. It'd be a huge surprise if iPhone 5 does not have LTE.

Submitted by sdduuuude on August 19, 2012 - 11:31pm.

I would buy a $30 phone on ebay and bring it into the store to have it activated.

Submitted by joec on August 20, 2012 - 5:59am.

We just upgraded to smartphones as well. It sounds like you have 3 people you need to upgrade for so why not get a mix depending on what people want? I've noticed for women, they seem to LOVE the iPhone more as a status/fashion symbol and because everyone else they know has one. I would recommend you watch these series of videos to get an idea of what iOS and Android can do. My wife went with the iPhone and I went with Android and feel like I can do a ton more than what she is using.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw

It's sorta like the PC vs Mac debate. If you are pretty tech oriented, you probably would like Android more being a more customizable option.

If your wife is happy with iPad/mac, then maybe she will be happier with that than forcing her to use Android.

Costco doesn't sell iPhones anymore so you would first need to decide on provider, then go from there...

Submitted by afx114 on August 20, 2012 - 10:01am.

You mean people still use their cellphones for talking?

Submitted by livinincali on August 20, 2012 - 10:10am.

I've used android phones and iPhones. I think both are good products and both have some strengths and weakness. It really depends on how you want to use the device. If you're a casual user who wants to fit in with the crowd and not really worry about your phone, iPhone is probably the way to go. If you want a lot of customization and want to use your phone as a mobile computer you're probably better off with an Android like Galaxy S3. The biggest thing for me is probably the screen size. iPhone feels really small when you go back to it from your typical android device.

I think the biggest direction in phones/manufactures is the tightly integrated environments their trying to lock you into. Based on the direction Apple is going with iOS6 you might not want to go with Apple if you love Google. I don't think Apple with replace Google search anytime soon but they did replace Google maps with their own mapping solution that isn't quite as refined. Full control of the eco-system means everything will probably work together right but it will probably slow down innovation.

Submitted by spdrun on August 20, 2012 - 10:16am.

Google Maps will still be available as an app if you want it. This isn't a reason to buy or not buy the iPhone.

Submitted by joec on August 20, 2012 - 11:15am.

I think the point livinincali brings up is very valid. Flash doesn't work on the iphone right? From where both GOOG and AAPL are headed and what they have stated/done (AAPL is suing Samsung now as everyone knows) it's pretty clear they will not integrate much between the platforms if they don't have to. Or they will make it harder to use certain apps/programs.

The iPhone 5 better have a bigger screen and not look similar to the iPhone 4/4S or it will be a total flop I think.

Submitted by all on August 20, 2012 - 12:15pm.

joec wrote:
I think the point livinincali brings up is very valid. Flash doesn't work on the iphone right?

It is not available for new Jelly Beans since few days ago either. Everyone (including Adobe) gave up on Flash.

I like the new vector map and turn-by-turn with iOS 6, but I would not get an iPhone for the new maps app alone.

Submitted by livinincali on August 20, 2012 - 1:12pm.

spdrun wrote:
Google Maps will still be available as an app if you want it. This isn't a reason to buy or not buy the iPhone.

I wouldn't say maps is a deal breaker. Although any third party app with maps will be forced to used the apple mapping solution. I think it's just pretty clear Apple is trying to lock users into their eco-system and a regular upgrade cycle. Many users are ok with that and like it, but I personally don't.

Submitted by spdrun on August 20, 2012 - 1:29pm.

^^^

Nope: if the app has access to HTTP and location data, it doesn't need to use Apple's map solution. BTW - I don't like Apple's lock-in any more than you do, but facts are facts.

Submitted by livinincali on August 20, 2012 - 2:15pm.

spdrun wrote:
^^^

Nope: if the app has access to HTTP and location data, it doesn't need to use Apple's map solution. BTW - I don't like Apple's lock-in any more than you do, but facts are facts.

Well you could technically roll your own mapping solution to use google maps if you really wanted to, but most people programming iOS apps were using Apple's MapKit API which used to point to Google Maps. Under IOS6 it will point to Apple's maps. Your average iOS app will display Apple maps instead of the google maps when users upgrade to iOS6. But it's technically true that someone could choose to code to google maps if they want to give up Apple's MapKit API and it probably won't be too long until somebody publishes some open source code to do that.

Submitted by moneymaker on August 20, 2012 - 9:37pm.

Thanks all for your input, I guess i will wait to see what the iPhone5 will have. Someone told me yesterday that it will even have a built in holographic projector, I doubt that however as it would take too much battery power.

Submitted by flu on September 12, 2012 - 10:03am.

FWIW: amazon is offering the Samsung Galaxy S3 for $99 with a signed contract

http://wireless.amazon.com/b/404251011/r...

Submitted by bobby on September 12, 2012 - 10:07am.

spdrun wrote:
Android. Unlike iOS, it doesn't come crippled out of the box, and you don't have some prudish f*cks in Palo Alto telling you what apps you're allowed to install on your own damn device.

Steve Jobs = inventor of computing as a prison, glad he's gone. (to quote Stallman)

pretty sure Apple is in cupertino....

Submitted by Fearful on September 12, 2012 - 8:19pm.

bobby wrote:
spdrun wrote:
Android. Unlike iOS, it doesn't come crippled out of the box, and you don't have some prudish f*cks in Palo Alto telling you what apps you're allowed to install on your own damn device.

Steve Jobs = inventor of computing as a prison, glad he's gone. (to quote Stallman)

pretty sure Apple is in cupertino....


Pretty sure there are plenty of Apple folks in Palo Alto, too, but we get your point.

I was an early Apple adopter, and over time I came to hate how constrictive - restrictive - opaque the Apple mindset is.

I despise iTunes. I can't stand how everything is closed off, locked up, sealed away. I buy my music from Amazon and I know I have an MP3 that I can do whatever I want with.

I inherited a super duper iMac. Because we don't have the password, it has been crippled for over a year and a half. My kid took it to a Genius, who couldn't figure out how to restore the OS. Technicians can't figure it out. It's insane.

But Apple is obviously onto something, and that's that a very large percentage of the computer using public wants, needs for it to be deeply simplified, and I can't argue with that.

By the way, our fellow accused of hatemongering didn't say he is glad Steve Jobs is dead; he said he's glad he's gone. There's a big difference. If you want to see the essence of all that is wrong with Steve Jobs, look in the wayback machine at NeXT computer. Only a loon like Jobs would hand you a chunk of obsidian and tell you to go do stuff with it.

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